In Parts 1, 2 and 4, Simon wore digging goggles with built-in light systems. Simon is also able to read bedrock; where it's softer, where he should dig specifically, all at a glance. Goku VS Superman; Season 2. Simon's power is determined by how much Spiral Power he can generate. Mario is easily MFTL with scaling to Bowser, and Goku is also MFTL with scaling to Beerus. Its not in character for him to do that, because he always wants a good fight. It would also be hard for Goku to actually teleport in front of Simon himself, since IT needs ki (or any similar energy source) to actually go to that object. Simon was the one who found Nia after she, in her pod, was dumped into the canyon by a Gunmen under Lordgenome's instruction. Simon does have feats of his stat amping abilities helping him catch up to characters that were stomping him, within a relatively short time. She witnessed Simon fight Cytomander's Shuzack and Viral's Enki on his own and finally accepted him as a capable leader. If Goku doesnt stand a chance against Simon, then why is Saitama even taken into consideration? If Goku starts with ki blasts Simon would absorb them and close the gap, and if he starts with H2H, Simon would sustain heavy damage. If it was the entire TTGL team, they might have a shot. 2. Because for Gohan, transforming into SSJ2 apparently turned a stomp around, which is a bit much for x2, So the point still stands, that Son Goku is At least 7.02 times more powerful than Simon, I mean his 3-A key isn't there. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. He can further create a grill that can rip reality apart, let alone individual worlds. We are building a home for otakus, nerds, and anyone sitting at home with superpowers likely to rule the world or maybejust obsessed with watching anime 24X7. Epic Dope is the new home of streaming news, views and reviews. @jeepeh@shenkuei@terrortuga@indomitableregal@garrettmana, @cooldes@darrellacoustic@nighthunder@comicstooge@overlordarhas@princearagorn1@stupid_people@ssj_god@micah@perethorn@cgoodness@frisky4@precrisisbardock@ugivemethelulz@dynamite75@indomitableregal@lejon @tradog@pope052@justsomerandomkid@etheral_dreams@icecold14@hulkage@micah@notatreeabush@dreadpool10@frisky4@pern@jgames@oceanmaster21@newcomer@garrettmana@darthsenju@ugivemethelulz@emperorthanos@jiraiya_sageofoil@zill0678@darth_wayne@cull_obsidian. Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) [Battle of Gods Saga] vs Simon the Digger (Episodes 17-26) Rules: Speed Equalized Takes Place around Earth Goku starts in Super Saiyan (This is Goku at the point where the power of SSJG was absorbed into his base form) Simon is in Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann Simon wins even without any mech. Thrown from the cockpit by Viral, she was injured in the fight and Simon, desperate to save her, crashes Gurren Lagann into the hull of Dai-Gunten. 20 Must-Watch Action Anime on Crunchyroll & Where To Watch! He swears to protect her from further harm and as he leaves, she's left speechless and cheeks bright pink. It forms a connection between the beings possessing SE and the universe and has infinite potential and applications. Twenty years later, an elderly Simon, having only a staff tipped with a large drill is seen in the outskirts of Kamina City. In episode 3, Simon thought up an idea on how to sneak attack Viral, who, mind you, is tough to sneak up on multiple times. From the fight with the anti-spiral, his reaction/perception speed should be well in the millions of times lightspeed if not higher. On the night before the raid, Simon and Yoko spend a couple of moments speaking with each other. Their relationship was strained after Simon brought Nia aboard the Dai-Gurren. Simon stores and develops so much spiral energy that he can create a robot the size of an entire universe or even a galaxy. In the beginning, his strength is barely greater than an average humans, but after learning how to incorporate spiral power into the attacks of mechs, the man starts throwing entire galaxies effortlessly. At age seven, Simon's parents were crushed before his eyes in a cave-in during an earthquake. Naruto has saved the planet more than once, fought through wars, and defeated aliens capable of destroying entire planets. Oof, seems like a complete one-shot. As he slides down the hill, Yoko watches, looking visually pleased with her decision. If Goku holds back and tries to "feel him out" in the beginning, Simon might win eventually. Having been for a moment reunited with his brother, he leaves to frees the others. how strong are the forcefields? Simon never fought using Lagann as most of the time, he was in Gurren Lagann or taking control of a Gunmen. As one of the warriors who has mastered Spiral Energy, Simon has the ability to create mighty mechas that are even bigger than the entirety of a galaxy. Since SSB is SSG x SSJ then you can actually 20x goku's SSJ value as a big low ball for SSB. Leaving Rossiu at the command of Kamina City in his absence, Simon and the rest of Team Dai-Gurren take control of the Cathedral Terra, renamed the Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren, and launch themselves into deep space to recover Nia from Antispiral's grasp. When becoming the Commander-in-Chief of Kamina City, he started training in Martial Arts, and was stated to become quite proficient with only 3 years in training. 4 wins (80%) @ghostwarren: if we're talking main characters. With hundreds of thousands of universes built and expanded upon in the various series, there are all sorts of characters with abilities. Without the Big Bang absorption he wasnt even close to universal, something he does not have access to. If you are logged in, please refresh. However, since Spiral Power grows exponentially over time, Simon will eventually reach a point where he can overpower Giorno, thus clinching victory. From 160 nominated characters only Goku, Simon, Yusuke and Yugi remain! Goku is only universal in MUI which he can't use. And is the probability stuff thought based? That easily makes Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Macroversal. She could use the power of her Silver Crystal to seal Sonic and banish him out of existence or use her tiara to turn him into dust. I mean like this is immediately at the start of the fight, you wouldn't start fighting and immediately start getting plot armor asspull will power "I will never give up" power boosts you know what I'm saying? Is the god bind where he traps u in his ki? When comparing him to Giorno, it becomes a case of unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Simon the Digger, the Leader of Team Dai-Gurren and Spiral Warrior. After successfully breaking her fall, Simon turns to face Viral but beforehand speaks to Yoko. Simon, Boota and the little boy watch the Gunmen board with a bright twinkle in the sky, thus ending the story as they stare at the firmament. In part 3, Simon had been Kamina City's Commander-in-Chief for 7 years. Raised by bandits after being abandoned by his village, Hiei began killingwhen he wasyoung and became one of the highest-ranking demons by the age of five. Superhuman Speed: In episode 6, Simon was quick enough to run along side Kamina, away from the Itamirpu (the bathhouse Gunmen). By the final battle the main character is able to use nebulai as weapons, and possibly revive the dead. Hits first appearance is already superior to SSJB ROF Son, What about SSJ Goku from BoG? Psanime is not a cartoon! Tetsuya Kakihara (Japanese) Takayuki Sugou (elderly,Japanese), Lagann PilotGurren Lagann PilotLeader of Team Dai-GurrenSupreme Commander (former)Captain of Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren, Tony Oliver (elderly,English)Gabriele Patriarca (teen,Italian)Alessandro Rigotti (adult,Italian)Francesco Prando (elderly,Italian). Blade Well-Known Member. Though I'd still say Goku edges Masaru out. Specifically during the escapade to win back his fiance and save the universe with the newly reformed "Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren Brigade", he wears grey, low-rise jeans, a matching black neck brace and haramaki, and a long, navy blue trench coat with gold studs. Sonic's super form has defeated powerful characters capable of breaking the Earth into pieces, a level of power Luffy has yet to achieve. Although Simon quickly forms familiar relationships with those in his age group, namely Yoko and Rossiu, and is admired by Rossiu's wards Gimmy and Darry, he often goes unnoticed, or ignored by the older members due to his appearance, with the exception of Dayakka, Kamina and Leeron. As Goku powers up or transforms, Simon will probably just create a universe-sized mecha to utterly annihilate the Saiyan. At best, he would get OG Lagann, which wouldn't be useful at all. Since Simon could kill the Anti-Spiral by himself, that means he has enough power to pilot STTGL since The Anti-Spiral by himself could pilot Super Granzeboma, @ghostwarren: we're using canon versions of characters, game versions obviously don't count. Detailed Tweet Analytics for Demon King Tanjiro()'s tweet - goku. On the other hand, Simons power is basically like a feedback loop that alters reality; as long as he has fighting will, his power is without limits. As a teenager among like-aged women, Simon was prone to jealousy and heartbreak. This haphazard and awkward relational dynamic ultimately proves fatal for Kamina when Yoko, apparently oblivious to Simon having possessed any feelings for her, confronts him on that same night. Human, Spiral Simon and Yoko after she frees him from his cell. Goku can still hit Simon as long as he can get the force field down, if simon is starting in his giant ass mecha goku most likely wil start with key blast lmao. Also the go-to guy for all things Epic at EML. Not to mention, Tenya has a limit to how fast he can move before his Engine Quirk stalls out on him and hinders his movement. The guilt from Simon over Kamina's death reduces the morale for the Team Gurren, but it affects Simon to an extreme - mentally broken, bitter and depressed, he becomes increasingly hostile towards foes and aggressive team members (i.e. Simon, on the other hand, can create mechas greater in size than entire galaxies without his energy diminishing in the slightest. The Blue Blurhas defeated ninja similar to Speed-o'-Sound Sonic before, like Espio the Chameleon, and his power-ups give him more versatility than Speed-o'-Sound's weapons. Yes. Look at all the Gurren Laganns." Could handle a full force punch from Kamina. @alextheboss: yes he can beat Goku. in the tournament of power he shook the world of void which is infinite nothingness from just his existence in ultra instinct. The true universal level threat wins. The image was burned into his mind during the pivotal battle against Thymilph, and Simon was unable to fight properly until he was, inspired to fight by Kamina, who ended up dying in the battle. They embraced in Lagann's cockpit on the return from the battle. Simon use his drill to create a Kamina statue in Kamina City's parks. Simon and Boota (and Kamina, according to the Otoko series, as well as Gurren Gakuen Hen) are the only characters in Gurren Lagann who can handle and enjoy Nia's cooking. Pre-Timeskip Peak Simon faces Guame on the head of Gurren Lagann. Luffy's Observation Haki would let him keep track of Sonic's super-speed, but Sonic has more ways of countering Luffy's options. The novelization states that Simon became a truly awakened Spiral being, some time before becoming the Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren's engine, which requires a Spiral being with truly awakened Spiral Power. Hes on a journey to discover life one bottle of sake at a time! Superhuman Strength: Even without the use of Spiral Power, Simon has a list of feats that showcases immense strength. Early in the first episode, Simon wore a brown cloak to shield from rocks and minerals as he dug for premise expansion in his home village. Simon wins if Goku starts with a ki blast, and Goku wins if he starts with H2H, which he most likely does start with, There is no specifically considering that Goku has 4 forms superior to SSJ, and the multipliers for them are either unknown or inapplicable, because of their inconsistency, The multipliers accepted are for the SSJ to SSJ3, which you already know, Wait, they really were accepted? As we seen in the Future Trunks arc, Zeno erased a timeline while still being able to exist within it which also puts him at 5D, which as we know is not going to make any effects to characters who transcend 5th dimensional. Even after mastering his immense Spiral Power, however, Simon refuses to see himself as a god, and instead thinks of himself only as 'Simon the Digger'. With Giga Drill Break, it creates a drill that is literally ten times the already unfathomable weapon. Like Sonic the Hedgehog, Speed-o'-Sound Sonic isrenowned for his incredible speed and fighting ability. Simon may have the upper hand with the probability manipulation. With nearly everyone having "abandoned" him (at Yoko's urging, as she believed nobody could help Simon overcome Kamina's death but himself), he is at his lowest. Simon and Nia's relationship continued to develop on the way to Teppelin, with Simon being the only person on the team able to enjoy Nia's cooking (the source of Rossiu's illness), let alone stomach it. Simon is eventually able to snap massively out of his delirium through a combination of his want to change Nia's desperate situation and his own resolve to rescue his crew. I was wondering when you were gonna finally do this. In the time that it would take him to create a mech (which he has never done in the series),. It's no secret that the Sonic the Hedgehog series draws heavy inspirations from Dragon Ball Z. SSJ2s multiplier has been inconsistent since its debut, Any thread for it, or anywhere that says its been accepted? Super Galaxy Team Dai-Gurren Costume Okay So Simon's Powerful, but Can He Beat- I. Goku Yes. not really, seriously, why the hell did goku win in the first place? At the end of the Anti-Spiral battle Simon has enough power to create and pilot STTGL all by himself. In the movie version, Simon had done the final blow, on his own, without a Gunmen. In his base form, Sonic wouldn't stand a chance against the Uzumaki's strength and a wide array of powers, but as Super Sonic, this is where Sonic would have the advantage. He is currently the most powerful character in the entire Dragon Ball franchise. He is also more than capable of being brave, and refused to just stand around while Kamina got himself killed. Initially, he disconnected himself from the rest of the crew and even once lashed out at Rossiu, mocking him for having once believed in a false religion. Thematic stomp: Simon The Digger vs Izuku Midoriya (Gurren Lagann vs My Hero Academia). It just so happens that he can generate quite a bit of it - even enough to overcome Granzeboma's Giga Drill Break after STTGL is defeated: People always point out that Simon beat The Anti-Spiral in H2H, but I'm pretty sure that was in the movie and not the show, so which is canon? Can Beat: Sonic's Speed Overwhelms Tenya Iida's Quirk (My Hero Academia), Can't Beat: Medaka Kurokami's Powers Are Too OP (Medaka's Box), Can Beat: Monkey D. 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Tbh, I feel like the main wincon that SGGL out of all his wincons is still MMVC, if he's able to stay alive long enough to charge it, than Gokue is fucked as he has nothing to counter that, The gap isnt even that large for a one shot. However, while it is known that anime has absurd power levels, where does Simons invincible strength come from? Uh yes you can are you kidding me right now? Simon resolved to try emulating Kamina, but the Spiral rejected it, forcing him into a fit of nausea and discharging raw Spiral Power out of Lagann's cockpit. After this display, he is unanimously elected Team Gurren's new leader. One of the most prominent traits that Simon holds is that he cares about others more then his own well-being, as shown when he tells Rossiu to put a bomb inside of Gurren-Lagann to make sure he can't escape to save himself before he went off to fight an incoming group of Mugann during his trial in order to save Kamina City. The main purpose of this forum is to discuss how to properly index the statistics of characters from a wide variety of different fictional franchises. I'd say Sinbad from the Magi manga and Battler Ushiromiya from Umineko no Naku Koro ni. This ability, called the Gold Experience Requiem, allows him to nullify anything. on Is Simon the Strongest Anime Character? Sonic can also use an ability called Ring Time, which turns anything near him into rings, which is something that would put Naruto down the moment it's used. Kamina and Simon had known each other all their lives, living in the underground village of Giha. Goku has faced off against Android 19, who can also absorb blasts. Leadership: Simon in part 2 had become a better leader than even Kamina. Upon hearing this, she responds, deep in thought with a tentative "Is that so". Nia was made aware of Team Dai-Gurren's loss of Kamina and Simon's depression, and resolved to understand Simon and the people of Team Dai-Gurren better. Simon has the ability to use spiral power since humans are spiral beings. He found a boy trying to open a coconut with a drill and gave a hint to open it. Unbeknownst to her, Simon had seen the exchange, only hearing the leaves rustle as he runs off utterly broken. At the start of the series, he was a shy, extremely withdrawn boy, finding solace only whilst digging tunnels for the expansion of Jiha village. Against Dai-Gunzan the first time, Simon with his ability to read bedrock, immediately thought up a plan on how to trap Dai-Gunzan. ", and he denies it awkwardly, After a brief pause, Yoko hands Simon her coffee which he thanks her for. Goku beats him without mech. Copyright 2022 Epic Media Labs. Virtually dragging him along on outrageous schemes, Kamina implored Simon to lend his skills and help them escape Jiha Village and reach the surface, which Kamina claimed he had visited as a young boy. Let me start an actual fucking VS thread cause yall dont know how to do it So, Goku could easily hurt Mario, especially considering the Kaio-Ken. Goku one shots. Apr 19, 2018 #10 Simon powerbombs them Seiya has only speed against him and it doesn't matter at all . And the mechs in the Gurren Lagann verse are powered by the pilots. The main reason why characters from Gurren Lagann, especially Simon, are, so OP is because of their power source, i.e., Spiral Energy. He saved himself and Kamina from Viral's Enki Sun Attack by digging a tunnel in almost an instant. End of Series Not only has Sonic resisted mind control, making Hiei's moot, but he regularly defeats Silver the Hedgehog, who can also move things with telekinesis. In a maneuver to calm down the angry mob, Simon is betrayed by his second-in-command, Rossiu, who removes him from power and holds a mock trial where Simon is sentenced to death. During the battle against Antispiral, Simon's goggles had transformed into star-shaped glasses, first the two points erupting from the sides so they resembled Kamina's, and finally another three points on the top and bottom (in honor of Kittan) to form the star shape. The only argument that Simon can win here is if he is able to create (S)TTGL, even though Simon has never done so in the series. Resurrection F Saga Son Goku is being used now, he starts in SSJB, So its not a one-shot, but Simon would sustain a lot of damage if Goku hit him even once. The real question is, how? After the fight, Yoko and Simon take time with each other and watch the sunset. RELATED:5 Harsh Realities of Being a Magical Girl (& 5 Perks). This is even corroborated by him being able to keep up with an elite soldier of Lordgenome's army (Viral), in prison. Note: Simon has used many other Gunmen, but these are the ones that he has used by himself; the other Gunmen are only used as he is with someone else. Spiral Power: As a Spiral being, he is capable of evolving with the use of Spiral Power, becoming more capable as he retains his willpower or "fighting spirit". With his hand drill, he is capable of creating illogically large holes within seconds. He on his own has never shown the ability to construct something of that scale. Kittan). Shortly thereafter, Simon awakens and lays waste to the Beastman opposition. A quote of his is used as the title for the episode he narrates, along with a paintbrush-type font. Goku loses even when in True Ultra Instinct, because he was able to go on par with Jiren who has been stated by Vados to be a being that surpasses time which puts Jiren on a 5D level which means Goku is on the same level. Simon, with his unfathomably large amount of Spiral Power, was able to catch up to match Antispiral's own power via evolution, and eventually overtake him as the universe's most powerful. If we bring them back to life, they'll just get in the way of the next generation". All Rights Reserved. He knows that its a bad idea to keep feeding energy to someone like that. Completing his typical wear were a pair of brown shorts, white socks, and brown boot-like shoes. We are a crew of obsessive and wide-eyed writers & reviewers who love putting out our views and opinions on the things we cant get enough of! With her magic, Bernkastel can manipulate the laws of Sonic's world and make him do whatever she pleases. When Rossiu has him imprisoned after saving Kamina City from the Mugann, Simon seemingly resigns himself to his fate, but shows that he still yearns to fight, shown through his heated battle against Viral in the prison showers. SGGL is gonna get clapped by goku physically. Explore Map Local Top Tweets Top Users Pricing. 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