There were like 20 of us. It was a gangster neighborhood. The official athletics website for the Fordham University Rams We had a gang that started in high school. It would scare people. I used to hide sometimes on the corner and wait for him, just hoping to get him. You come running through the building with the cops after you and you could run into any door. Who the hell knows whats in your brain? It was a crazy neighborhood. When I lived in the Bronx, prior to 1953 - there was a gang called the Fordham Daggers. It was all music and sex and everybody getting high. That was right before the Kennedy assassination. I removed the references to Brooklyn gangs in popular culture - does not make any sense to have them there - this article is not about Brooklyn. But you gotta remember one thing: When we were kids, we didnt have to kill anybody. I remember the older guys coming around and passing the word that if any white kid in the neighborhood stole an old ladys pocketbook, they would have their hands and legs broken. Its where the old freight trains used to run out of Long Island City. DiVincenzos elbow took another bullet, which passed through his arm. But you can find where it was filmed on this list. They were on the highway, and the guy said something out the window to his girl, and they went back and forth, then finally pulled off the highway up by Bryant Park. I went over to the South 9th Bikers in early 1980, the same year I went to jail. The son made it seem like it was a burglary, and we made off with all his weapons. Not in my memory! We were all hanging out together already, the Unknowns and the South 9s. The Hunts Point area is the poorest place you can be. Some shotguns, a .30-06, a .30-30. I also had a guy who used to bring me cars for parts. That was a typical day. This was 1960 through 1962. By the time they got there, however, the Baldies had left for their regular hangout on Belmont Ave a candy store called Piggys, hanging out and lolling about on the stoop. A lot of the guys started moving out of the neighborhood or going off to Vietnam. It was a two-way thing. And of course, you dont let nobody take your colors. We gotta watch our back. Youd bring a girl with you so she could hold the gun. John Gotti, too. It became, This is where were selling drugs. People were having shootouts left and right. This guy Georgie Grout, he had a car antenna and he threw it down and this guy must have been, I dunno, 40 feet away? We had the apartment on the first floor and even the old guys from the neighborhood would come in and play cards and dominoes. Wasnt too much of a fight. of the day,' black leather jackets dungarees and boots. Youd be saying, I dont give a shit who you are, calling the club out. Its cheaper than coke, and you get whacked on it. This event took place in Washington Heights, I mean, I could have been arrested for date rape a million times. I remember my first encounter with a drive-by. They werent allowed to date outside girls. Finally the Youth Squadthe special police squad they set up just to deal with the gang problemgot involved. 71.184.65.20 (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], That can't possibly be a real gang. If you had war with somebody, then you could walk around their block wearing your colors, trying to be funny. On Tuesday, June 1, 1954 at around noon hour, six Red Wings arrived at Orchard Beach, the Bronx in a dark-coloured 41 Cadillac, driven by Frank Giampetruzzi who was AWOL from Camp Dix. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. The ones that didnt go in are the ones that died along the way. It was a sanctuary, this rectangle here. that Farmer was a member of a rival gang called "The Jesters" (It's not known whether or not Farmer was a gang member thougheven to this day). If you want to see somebodys colors, you walk around the back and look at them. It was like a game. It's an in-depth look into the Mau Maus and Sand Street Angels gangs from Brooklyn in the 1950s. Now, everybody else has a bike. Oh yeah, and if you went down on a girl then, you couldnt walk around the neighborhood afterward. Mario was Ernests brother but passed away a couple of days prior to his son emailing me in March 2012. "Gang Slang" By PHILIP BENJAMIN New York Times (1857-Current file); Oct 20, 1957; pg. The 2 external links that I supplied give a lot more detail and documentation, and I suggest that the next editor of this piece start there. I would say, three out of every five shootouts, somebody would get hit. The Spanish guys were different. the Saracen Lords and the Nobles. (2) Police busted up a rumble between two (South) Bronx gangs. They werent pussies. I was a heroin addict from the age of maybe 13 to 17, but not like a falling-down addict. Like 12 or 13. People hustled their money. An ex-Wanderer had this to say: I was a Wanderer! When I last saw them, they were street fighters, members of the Fordham Baldies, a gang that made our Little Italy neighborhood unsafe for outsiders. Bucks, the Gents and the Garrisons gangs. Or if you get hit with a shotgun, forget it. Jun.1, 1954 - Several Members of the Red Wings' gang from East Harlem drove to Fordham Baldies turf in the Bronx and shoot dead Ernest Montuoro after being insulted in a fracas at Orchard Beach. It got to a point where a gang called the Fordham Baldieswho were like the biggest Italian gang in the Bronxheard about us and came down and made us a brother club. Yeah, it was nice. Wed see them coming, walking up Bushwick Avenue in a line of like 20 abreast. In September 1979 or 80, there was a big fire. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. It was easier to sell. There was always some guy who got beat up and they took the sweater and we had to go find out who took it and get it back. Ive snorted a lot of cocaine in my fuckin life, but these guys I know who used to do snuff, their noses used to fuckin bleed. formed. He died in a tragic fuckin condition. They still have them down there, these buildings where the cellars have all these different rooms. The gangs started separating. They didnt have to worry about getting robbed or nothing on the block. This time it was a Red Wings invasion. After a few of them you could do anything. Even some of the names used are real. It was two carloads of the fellas, just headed toward the block, coming from Greenpoint. Back then, Id get up in the morning, 7:30 or so, go stand on the corner by the train station, and ask for quarters. We used to make choppers with four- and six-polesextensions, you know? Caleo took another bullet just about the left buttock, near his belt line. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. But it wasnt like they asked us to. But that was once in a while, you know? Sometimes after I got done kicking her ass, one of my girlfriends would come and, you know, kick her ass some more. His laugh reflex got fucked-up. We were at war with two clubs called the Dukes and the Arabian Knights. Turns out he was an innocent bystander. Now were going to wear these denim jackets with patches on them. And then all of a sudden, youd find yourself claiming a piece of Brooklyn as your fuckin real estate. At that time you could buy the Robitussin AC, with codeine. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. They made us have a big meeting in Junior High School 73. We buried each others brothers too much. Fordham Baldies is on Facebook. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the Bald Eagle and had the Duck's Ass or "D.A." Mary Hamilton (l. 14). Here's the spotify link:https://open.spotify.com/artist/0FJNuMjFZHeQKJXR0DlmzX?si=RjpC0Rx4SpWB7sXFlct-Qg\u0026utm_source=copy-link\u0026dl_branch=1\u0026nd=1 But the thing is, there never is an invasion. We started saying, Why dont we make patches? And finally we did. Id be there for a few hours. Back then, Washington Heights neighborhood consisted mainly of Irish and Jews. The resulting group took their name from the Bronx's Belmont Avenue. But it isnt like we were setting out to take over the building. We went to Our Lady of Lourdes Grammar School on Aberdeen Street. But down in Chinatown, you could buy a tin of cocaine snuff for 25 cents. We were big wine drinkers. A car can sit on the street two or three days today. This was way before anybody was selling drugs. True, that could be any college. I gave her two bucks and I came in about two seconds, then went home and jerked off ten times thinking about it. At that point, all everybody wanted to do was sell drugs. If you were out to get a guy, you wanted to put him in the hospital. We had a building on the Southside that we painted up with Free Sonny Barger. He was the Hells Angels national president who was locked up at the time. The book is 6x9 and has 370 pages! I proposed some sections, but there is still lots of work to be done. Actually, I wish I could go back a couple years. It went right through his forearm. In fact, you dont turn around for anybody either. He didnt have to worry about his building getting messed up, because we wouldnt allow that. What do you think?--rocketrye12 talk/contribs 04:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], Sorry, didn't see this discussion - I changed the name to Bronx gangs (1950s-1960s) because that is specifically what is being discussed. Later on we had a clubhouse where wed hang out all the time. I caught a few. It was a handful of us that really made most of the noise. Eventually, if you hung out in that neighborhood you tried pills or pot, or whatever other crap came into town. It had to be girls who were in that particular gang. One of us would move out of a place, and ten families would move in. If two women came into a bar, they never paid for a drink and nobody even went over to talk to them. We would let him go because he was with his girl. They gave you your JD card, which means juvenile delinquent, so that was the label you carried, you know what I mean? TRIKER1 (talk) 15:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply], I read the article twice and I still have no idea what most of it was talking about. His father was a building super. So wed take the apartment over. One of the bullets hit Montuoro, hitting him in the aorta, killing him. I was maybe 16. I got stabbed in the head one day with an umbrella. The apartments were filled with rats and roaches, we had no heat or hot water half the time, pipes were falling down, ceilings were leaking. Thats all you needed, was to have on the back of your jacket: The Majestics. At school, a high school teacher accidentally sparks a race riot between the Italian gang the Wanderers and the Black gang the Del-Bombers. That was the big thing. We used to convert it to our style, with bandanas and patches and everything. We came into a lot of weapons at an early time. We didnt shake nobody down or hurt nobody. Giampetruzzi, Bonano, Santanielli and the rest of the Red Wings high tailed it out of the Bronx back to East Harlem, seething over the insults and plotting revenge. They I left it, but recommend changing that line. We protected women. The Unknowns used to be from Union to Rodney, Metropolitan to like South 4th. You wanted to teach him a lesson. They were like, Whos the president? and a couple of guys went over, and we had this truce. It was like 50 cents a bottle. They yell one word in Yiddish, and everybody comes out the woodwork. We didnt have rules or initiations. I joined around 1960, when I was 13. It didnt begin as a crime thing. So the guys said, If you dont do it, were gonna strip you. And thats where the war began. Hell no. The fordam baldies aka belmont baldies aka baldie mob shaved their heads as far back as the 1940's and hung out at a candy store on belmont between 189th and fordham. Jumping back in Giampettruzzis Cadillac, the five Red Wings headed back to Orchard Beach. Little by little the white gang broke up. Lot of guys went to jail. The only time I ever went to the hospital was the first time I got shot, because I didnt know what to expect. I was always aware. About ten months ago I received an email from the son of Mario Montuoro. Five leather jacket clad Astoria gangs almost mix it up with The force would cause the rubber band to shoot a .22 bullet. But they looked at us and they said, It was Alicat So it was Alicat. We went to Seward Park High School, and it was mostly Jews. Then of course the cops picked up on it, and it got to be really tough. If they caught you, you were going to get an ass whuppin. This let anyone down in the park know you were coming. We had no real guns, just the ones that we made, which were a joke. So that kind of shit won over a lot of the tenants. I never shot up. I think I shot two or three times with my .25 before it jammed. He left behind a wife and child. They were like, "Who's the. But he tires of being a Baldie, and the nail in the coffin, is when all the good members in a drunken stupor, sign up for the US Navy. - Mgm|(talk) 05:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC), this was in the HelpDesk when I had the article's name changed. Thats where the money was. We had a riot on Fulton Street one time, and thats what we did. I go to a funeral now and I dont even cry. 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